It looks increasing like a weather-related event. Having lived in that part of the world for a time, when Indonesian airlines were so unsafe they were banned from flying into the EU, such events weren't uncommon.
But N America has had its share of weather events. Different, but deadly. Cloud formations and air pressure changes that would invert you on final approach - not a good thing. Improvements in radar technology mitigate most of this now. In this case they were trying to avoid the weather, but these planes are designed to withstand it. Will be interesting to see what the investigation throws up.
One would think not. They do have a weird system of air traffic control judging by the issues with the first plane to disappear but you also have to wonder if this is the work of a terrorist group [ and Al Queda exists in Indonesia] so you wonder if they have people on the inside as well, the government or air traffic control or both. It seems the pilot of the first plane is likely the one that took that plane off course but why the long response to the fact it had changed course and why weren't fighter jets sent out to find it. Or could be someone who wants to destroy the airline industry in that part of the world. How much money has been spent on a futile search of the first plane and who is footing that bill?
I was reading an article in USA Today that talked about the tracking used on planes. Boeing offers a tracking service that monitors almost *everything* and that's how they were able to find the AirFrance plane. None of the Malaysian airlines subscribe to the Boeing service even though it's offered on the missing plane (AirBus 320-200).
The sophistication of the service depends on what the airline would like to spend. For example, Boeing promotes a service called custom alerting and analysis, which is available for 777, 747 and 787 aircraft with high-speed Internet connections. It monitors fuel, flight controls, landing gear, hydraulic power and communications.
"My understanding is that Malaysia doesn't subscribe to the Boeing program and that they collect the data for their own use."
The early report I read (haven't read/seen the news since), said right before the plane went missing, the pilot asked for a change to his flight path due to weather. Has it been confirmed there were weather issues that would require a change?
Yes. There were sateelite pic of weather so severe that there were black areas in the storms. Red is the most severe level, and then black. I cant even imagine the levels of turbulence, it makes me want to barf just thinking about it. Those poor people.
Why Malaysia Airlines is the biggest question. Missing = does not bode well. Remember the days when people/groups would just hijack a plane and land in another part of the world? Now they take a lot of innocent people with them on their mission. Tis a pity.
Sorry to sound pedantic but did any group claim responsibility for the last downed flight?
To my knowledge no one has taken responsibility for the missing first jet. I just know they found some very interesting stuff at the pilot's home, that he seemed to be practicing the maneoveurs he would have had to pull off for this disappearing plane act on a flight simulator at home, he was also an instructor supposedly.
They have speculated on CNN that if it were indeed a weather related incident, that the plane would be somewhere in the Java Sea which they say is quite shallow, since the search won't resume until the morning (their time) we can only wait
There is something called the The Intertropical Convergence Zone (ITCZ), known by sailors as the doldrums, is the area encircling the earth near the equator where the northeast and southeast trade winds come together. (wiki)
I read that it's impossible to fly above the thunder storms this generates.
I'm always interested to hear what "Psychic Focus" has to say about these events, and she certainly doesn't disappoint on this occasion: http://psychicfocus.blogspot.co.nz/2014/12/missing-flight-airasia-flight-qz8501.html
I'm just going to say it...dont hate me...this would never happen in North America
ReplyDeleteIt looks increasing like a weather-related event. Having lived in that part of the world for a time, when Indonesian airlines were so unsafe they were banned from flying into the EU, such events weren't uncommon.
DeleteBut N America has had its share of weather events. Different, but deadly. Cloud formations and air pressure changes that would invert you on final approach - not a good thing. Improvements in radar technology mitigate most of this now. In this case they were trying to avoid the weather, but these planes are designed to withstand it. Will be interesting to see what the investigation throws up.
That is awful.
ReplyDeleteOne would think not. They do have a weird system of air traffic control judging by the issues with the first plane to disappear but you also have to wonder if this is the work of a terrorist group [ and Al Queda exists in Indonesia] so you wonder if they have people on the inside as well, the government or air traffic control or both. It seems the pilot of the first plane is likely the one that took that plane off course but why the long response to the fact it had changed course and why weren't fighter jets sent out to find it. Or could be someone who wants to destroy the airline industry in that part of the world. How much money has been spent on a futile search of the first plane and who is footing that bill?
ReplyDeleteI was reading an article in USA Today that talked about the tracking used on planes. Boeing offers a tracking service that monitors almost *everything* and that's how they were able to find the AirFrance plane. None of the Malaysian airlines subscribe to the Boeing service even though it's offered on the missing plane (AirBus 320-200).
ReplyDeleteThe sophistication of the service depends on what the airline would like to spend. For example, Boeing promotes a service called custom alerting and analysis, which is available for 777, 747 and 787 aircraft with high-speed Internet connections. It monitors fuel, flight controls, landing gear, hydraulic power and communications.
"My understanding is that Malaysia doesn't subscribe to the Boeing program and that they collect the data for their own use."
The early report I read (haven't read/seen the news since), said right before the plane went missing, the pilot asked for a change to his flight path due to weather. Has it been confirmed there were weather issues that would require a change?
ReplyDeleteYes. There were sateelite pic of weather so severe that there were black areas in the storms. Red is the most severe level, and then black. I cant even imagine the levels of turbulence, it makes me want to barf just thinking about it. Those poor people.
DeleteWhy Malaysia Airlines is the biggest question. Missing = does not bode well. Remember the days when people/groups would just hijack a plane and land in another part of the world? Now they take a lot of innocent people with them on their mission. Tis a pity.
ReplyDeleteSorry to sound pedantic but did any group claim responsibility for the last downed flight?
Oops wrong use of the word. Sorry to sound ignorant.
DeleteTo my knowledge no one has taken responsibility for the missing first jet. I just know they found some very interesting stuff at the pilot's home, that he seemed to be practicing the maneoveurs he would have had to pull off for this disappearing plane act on a flight simulator at home, he was also an instructor supposedly.
ReplyDeleteYes we are perhaps overreacting, planes still go missing the old fashioned way. Run into a mountain or such in bad weather.
ReplyDeleteThey have speculated on CNN that if it were indeed a weather related incident, that the plane would be somewhere in the Java Sea which they say is quite shallow, since the search won't resume until the morning (their time) we can only wait
ReplyDeleteThis is horrible. I can't even imagine how their families feel, waiting for some kind of news. :(
ReplyDelete+1, Meanie. The families must be frightened to death and worried sick. Has anything every been determined about the fate of mh370??
ReplyDeleteUnbelievable. I saw it on a news post on FB and some of the comments were awful. Nothing to joke about.
ReplyDeleteThere is something called the The Intertropical Convergence Zone (ITCZ), known by sailors as the doldrums, is the area encircling the earth near the equator where the northeast and southeast trade winds come together. (wiki)
ReplyDeleteI read that it's impossible to fly above the thunder storms this generates.
I'm always interested to hear what "Psychic Focus" has to say about these events, and she certainly doesn't disappoint on this occasion: http://psychicfocus.blogspot.co.nz/2014/12/missing-flight-airasia-flight-qz8501.html
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