Did you see where Sutter said tonight's episode is his favorite this season? Arghh!!! I love this show, but it gives me major anxiety. I'll be looking for you and SM later!
18 mins till countdown 4 me.. see you here in about 2 hours luv.. oh and rosario dawson will be on today show in the morning. i will try to post that on her thread too..
i posted earlier about courtney love and lana del meh tour... just try not getting vertigo after watching those 2 all night..
**********warning spoiler alert soa down below**************
bye wayne bye juice bye gemma bye felicia!! " i beg your parden, i never promised you a rose garden!!" haaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaa had to go there every rose has it's thorn..... i could go all night..
well wayne if gemma is all you got left imma gotta let you down hard and fast --- bye felicia juice poor juice.. loyal to samcro till the end.. the juice finally got squeezed.. bye felicia and gemma charmings sterling rose had to be put down jax had to end the cycle of abuse/ torment/ this is who we are!!
wendy finally got jax's ass and she got it angry sideways emo i just killed my maawww sex too!! nothing hotter than angry emo sideways sex.. the sideways gif will now be added to my gif file.. ty kurt sutter..
and thomas.. congrats brooo you got 3 seconds of screen time this week.. not that jax noticed but maybe next week jax will remember he has a 2nd son after he comes out of his wendys poon/ i just shot my maawww phase..
***WARNING: SOA SPOILERS*** *Definitely SOA's version of the Ozymandias episode (BrBa) *Alvarez ALWAYS keeps/says it real. Someone needs to take some of the shots away from Jax's crazy ass *CHIKLIS!!! Maybe I've just been on the road too long...LOL. Interesting they left "Eureka" together *...And Heisenberg's Black Hand Theory held up in every capacity, sadly. I specifically predicted last week that there would be a rape scene throw back to the kitchen gang rape in American Me, but this was less brutal for TV. (That's the La Eme movie where several consultants were murdered and Olmos was extorted because of it). Thank you, thank you. *bows and catches bouquet* *Juice was right. Chinese killing him would cause problems with the club. But Tully also knows it would cause additional problems in custody. One of their race getting killed by another reflects on the whole group. It's best to take their own out for reputation purposes. *Classic diversion tactic for the prison hit. RIP juice. I always loved you. *Hahaha as if Unser dropping the assault matters!!! JAX STOLE A CAR AT GUNPOINT AND TOOK THE COPS ON A HIGH SPEED CHASE THAT INVOLVED AN OFFICER CRASHING!!! What. The. Actual. Fuck. I was so worried about this shit. Sloppy writing right there, folks. *"I'm about to clean all that mess up." What a dick thing to say about all those people you senselessly slaughtered, Jackie Boy. *Funny how Gemma and Juice both subscribed to path dependency so hardcore that they fled straight to places they would immediately get caught *Jax's request to racially diversify means SOA will be a "hybrid" Gang. This means bigger numbers but potentially more disorganization. The best example is 18th Street, which became one of the top two of world's largest street gangs (since it has no race/gender restrictions) *Sagal should have gotten her own spinoff movie, "There's Something About Gemma" *We all knew Unser was on borrowed time. Shot in the heart. RIP dude. *And SOA finally made me cry...oh my god. We also knew Jax would kill mama but holy shit, I need to process this...I kept thinking ".I never promised you a rose garden! Don't shoot!" *Again, just like with HTGAWM, I'm disturbed by the recent influx of imagery juxtaposing sex scenes with dead bodies. I'm not even gunna start with wondering how the fuck someone gets it on like that after shooting his mama. It's not edgy, it's fucking gross but whatever... Ughhh my goooooddddd
Question: At the end, they show Juice in the morgue. He has new ink markings on his head, looks like 12, 27 and maybe 80? I know AB uses 12, but I'm guessing it's a birthday? Weird.
@sugartits I can't believe we both thought of Never Promised You a Rose Garden (yes I can we are terrible!) *your Thomas breakdown was spot on *That sex scene was still hot, I can't lie but come on, Sutter. I knew you'd love those ass shots. It helped with the crying.
1st yes his birthday. juice is 12-27-89- i believe they showed again at the end where the wrote on the rock wall a few episodes back rip jt 12-27-89 right before he cut a deal w/ jax and did the drive by to go and get put in jail i'm guessing maybe 12-27-80 was a sort of gangland time stamp, time of death type thing.. like soa till the very end maybe??
funny how we both were singing the rose garden song huh?? i really didn't think he would kill her and i was watching in bed on my laptop and when the shot rang out i jumped and my baby furball who was tucked under my right arm next to my computer just looked back at me and gave me the angriest "DO NOT DISTURB!!" smh look.. i just grinned at her and took a breath.. i didn't think he would but he had to end the cycle..
yes well guys never need a good reason to fuck do they??
i did not fully understand jax's whole request to fully diversify and make for a hybrid club but i will go back and rewatch later tomorrow afternoon.. maybe you could better explain what that means???
also where can i watch the sheild?? it's not on netflix i/m on season 3 of damages and i wanted to start that next i never watched that b4..
oh and yeah i figured that whole car chase scene would be completely wiped off the slate..there's just not enough time w/ 2 eps left to address petty shit like theft, assault, fat shaming... only so many loose ends to tie up and only 2 eps to do it in i figured the fat shaming would never be brought up on charges.. and mrs chibbs must have been tied up to the bedpost still from last week where chibbs left here.. cheeesechrist jackieboy i fuurrrgot to untie huurrr..
@sugartits ***SOA SPOILERS*** *Whew! Let's see if I can respond in under 20 minutes ;) *I'm thinking it's either a birthdate or a bible verse. Could be gang shit though- I can't read the last number but it could be 80, 88, or 89. 80 would fit for his bday but 88 would make sense as in 12 (AB because A is first letter of alphabet and B is second), 27 (AB set?) and 88 (common skinhead tat for Heil Hitler, as 8 is the eighth letter) *Do you really think he shot Gem to end the cycle? I think it was more because club shit supersedes family. You do "what needs to be done." *Jax made earlier promises to patch in the Mexican dudes. It will be interesting to see if Sutter frames the hybridization as a positive or negative shift. I think the bigger point is not so much that they care about equality (as they constantly say racist shit) but that it always comes down to green. They get to pay lip service and act like they are fighting an antiquated rule while not giving a shit about anything but money. I need to rewatch again later too. So much shit!
awesome sauce recaps as usual.. imma going to bed now. i will rewatch wed and get back to you hopefully w/ our 3some tacky fries joins in too..nighty night boo boo
I'm here, just late as always! Still processing. Love your notes, not much left to be said. I also wondered how you can go from killing mama straight to sex, but I think that's always been a coping mechanism for Jax (not excusing it, but an observation). It was interesting to see the full circle with Wendy. However, on Afterword, Callie mentioned it had only been SEVEN days since Tara's murder. WTF Also, I don't know if you guys saw my link from last week, but I totally think Tig is dirty. There is no way Marks would have let him live without making it work to his favor. Marks is too smart to waste an opportunity like that. When you go back and watch, notice the camera shots to Tig.
Question: When Jax says he'll "make sure his club votes the right way," was he talking about Mayhem or stepping down as president? I'm guessing the latter, but still not convinced.
My thoughts on tonight's episode * I can't believe they took out 3 major characters in one episode, but I guess they didn't want to take them all out in the finale. * Not sure why it bugged me so much, but I didn't want Jax to sleep with Wendy. * I found it sad when Chucky told Wayne to tell Gemma hi. I realized then that she had a trifecta of men carrying a torch for her- Nero, Wayne and Chucky. * I absolutely loved the song about rain. I knew the voice was familiar but I couldn't place it. I had to google it to find out it was Ed Sherran. * I thought Gemma was going to be like a cockroach and survive everything. Now I have to rethink what will happen next week.
Hi @Tacky Fries! I totally BUY that Jax was able, ahem, to, ummm..perform but I am just saying that I am disturbed by it. Jax - like many antihero characters- substitutes sex for emotional expression. It makes sense that fucking is the first thing he would do, and it is consistent with his behavior since day 1. *What?!?! SEVEN DAYS!! Great scoop! Thanks! Must watch! *I did see it. The only reasons it may not happen are 1) simplicity; 2) time restriction/last episode primacy and 3) Sutter may not be that skilled of a planner/writer. I love the theory though and always enjoy shit like that. We will see. It sucks when you build up all of these elaborate theories and they end up wrong. Luckily I was right with my Black Hand SOA Theory.
Minor BrBa spoiler: Back in the day, I had so many reasons why I thought Gomez was dirty and I still feel guilty about it. That was the one TV theory I had that I was really wrong about. Sorry Gomie!
@ Tacky, I didn't see the full afterword, but when Gemma went to see her dad, she told the lady that she couldn't contact Tara because she died a few months/3 months prior (can't remember specifically), but it definitely wasn't 7 days.
i moved the post down here to make it easier to reply okay??? ***************8warning soa spoilers okay********************** kurt sutter said in the after show why he killed all 3 in this ep but i can't remember i will try to remember when i rewatch.. too mtch to process all at once, ya know?? okay last post and imma going to bed.. gemma said in tonights episode that tara was killed a few months ago but wayne said in the aftwerword that the real time difference was only 7 days.. it was more like 2 months i think..
@alnl.. yes i wast trying to type as fast as i could.. and i agree the way tiggs /chibbs whatever his name kept side eyeing jax and being all shifty was making me a little nervous.. i noticed that too.. but like i said ^^^^^^^^^^ so much too process at once i have to sleep on things and go back and rewatch after i have let things processed awhile.... but i remember tiggs cuteye to jax, sure sure, jacky...
YAY!!! @all lace joined us!!! *Exactly. I think SOA will end very Hamlet everybody dies style. Heads needed to start rolling *I think him going back to Wendy of all people and so damn soon will bother a lot of people. It really trivializes Tara and her role in the family even more than Jax banging up the street walker chic (seemingly right after too). This was further underscored by Wendy instantly replacing Tara as her dad's conservator...lives are expendable, people are replaceable, nothing is sacred. *Interesting that hospice admin procedures technically got Gemma killed. Tara got HER revenge. Take that Beyotch for that fork through the brain! *yup Gemma tha heartbreaka
@Tacky Fries: *I think Jax knows he's dead anyways. As Nero predicted, killing Gemma will destroy him if the Mayhem vote, prison, or foes do not *I think he is sacrificing himself to Mr Mayhem for the club. He admitted lying and killing another brother. He apologized for failing as a president
Do you think that's why jax wanted Wendy and Nero to take the boys to the farm?? Because he knows the captain will go down with the ship and he wants the boys raised on a farm? All women in club land are marginalized and replaceable without anyone even raising an eyebrow. Like old one out new one in.. women are completely expendable. .porn , old lady . Hooker .. 3 choices..all expendable at any time..
Callie was trying to be funny when he said "SEVEN DAYS". Trying to make a point that people kept asking why he hadn't solved the murder yet and he said he'd only been on it seven days...what do people want?. I don't think he literally meant 7 days. If so, then Jax has banged 2 women within 7 days of his wife dying. With all the stuff they are doing, there is no way it's only been 7 days. Juice was at Wendy's for several days alone and he's been in jail for longer.
I believe you're right. I thought about it once I went to bed last night, and realized that either a) Callie was being sarcastic or b)he was just flat out wrong/confused. PS Good catch on the hand @LadyH!!!
For a moment I thought Courtney was Madonna!
ReplyDeleteThey are all morphing into the same person.
DeleteLike janice dickenson and steven tyler.
What in the holy heck happened to Courtney's face???????? She's unrecognizable!!!!!!! :(
ReplyDeleteWhere's the picture where she's hammered and trying to hide in the backseat with a bottle of Patron? That's the Courtney we know and love.
ReplyDeleteSober or not sober?
ReplyDeleteThat is the question.
Not!
I think Courtney looks good. Maybe a little stoned, but pretty put together. And at a quick glance @7, she does resemble Madonna.
ReplyDelete@califblondy: Classic Courtney. Remember that time she actually crashed Madonna's interview?
ReplyDeleteI love me some Court fucked up on the Roast
Only 7ish hours @sugartits! Vroom vroooom! I wonder if Courtney will be in tonight's episode. I'm super antsy :(
Did you see where Sutter said tonight's episode is his favorite this season? Arghh!!! I love this show, but it gives me major anxiety. I'll be looking for you and SM later!
Delete18 mins till countdown 4 me.. see you here in about 2 hours luv.. oh and rosario dawson will be on today show in the morning. i will try to post that on her thread too..
Deletei posted earlier about courtney love and lana del meh tour...
just try not getting vertigo after watching those 2 all night..
**********warning spoiler alert soa down below**************
Deletebye wayne
bye juice
bye gemma
bye felicia!!
" i beg your parden, i never promised you a rose garden!!"
haaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaa had to go there
every rose has it's thorn.....
i could go all night..
well wayne if gemma is all you got left imma gotta let you down hard and fast --- bye felicia
juice poor juice.. loyal to samcro till the end..
the juice finally got squeezed..
bye felicia
and gemma charmings sterling rose had to be put down
jax had to end the cycle of abuse/ torment/ this is who we are!!
wendy finally got jax's ass and she got it angry sideways emo i just killed my maawww sex too!!
nothing hotter than angry emo sideways sex..
the sideways gif will now be added to my gif file.. ty kurt sutter..
and thomas.. congrats brooo you got 3 seconds of screen time this week.. not that jax noticed but maybe next week jax will remember he has a 2nd son after he comes out of his wendys poon/ i just shot my maawww phase..
thoughts??
you realize you've lost the element of surprise??
Deletejust let me finish my pie....
***WARNING: SOA SPOILERS***
Delete*Definitely SOA's version of the Ozymandias episode (BrBa)
*Alvarez ALWAYS keeps/says it real. Someone needs to take some of the shots away from Jax's crazy ass
*CHIKLIS!!! Maybe I've just been on the road too long...LOL. Interesting they left "Eureka" together
*...And Heisenberg's Black Hand Theory held up in every capacity, sadly. I specifically predicted last week that there would be a rape scene throw back to the kitchen gang rape in American Me, but this was less brutal for TV. (That's the La Eme movie where several consultants were murdered and Olmos was extorted because of it). Thank you, thank you. *bows and catches bouquet*
*Juice was right. Chinese killing him would cause problems with the club. But Tully also knows it would cause additional problems in custody. One of their race getting killed by another reflects on the whole group. It's best to take their own out for reputation purposes.
*Classic diversion tactic for the prison hit. RIP juice. I always loved you.
*Hahaha as if Unser dropping the assault matters!!! JAX STOLE A CAR AT GUNPOINT AND TOOK THE COPS ON A HIGH SPEED CHASE THAT INVOLVED AN OFFICER CRASHING!!! What. The. Actual. Fuck. I was so worried about this shit. Sloppy writing right there, folks.
*"I'm about to clean all that mess up." What a dick thing to say about all those people you senselessly slaughtered, Jackie Boy.
*Funny how Gemma and Juice both subscribed to path dependency so hardcore that they fled straight to places they would immediately get caught
*Jax's request to racially diversify means SOA will be a "hybrid" Gang. This means bigger numbers but potentially more disorganization. The best example is 18th Street, which became one of the top two of world's largest street gangs (since it has no race/gender restrictions)
*Sagal should have gotten her own spinoff movie, "There's Something About Gemma"
*We all knew Unser was on borrowed time. Shot in the heart. RIP dude.
*And SOA finally made me cry...oh my god. We also knew Jax would kill mama but holy shit, I need to process this...I kept thinking ".I never promised you a rose garden! Don't shoot!"
*Again, just like with HTGAWM, I'm disturbed by the recent influx of imagery juxtaposing sex scenes with dead bodies. I'm not even gunna start with wondering how the fuck someone gets it on like that after shooting his mama. It's not edgy, it's fucking gross but whatever... Ughhh my goooooddddd
Question: At the end, they show Juice in the morgue. He has new ink markings on his head, looks like 12, 27 and maybe 80? I know AB uses 12, but I'm guessing it's a birthday? Weird.
@sugartits
DeleteI can't believe we both thought of Never Promised You a Rose Garden (yes I can we are terrible!)
*your Thomas breakdown was spot on
*That sex scene was still hot, I can't lie but come on, Sutter. I knew you'd love those ass shots. It helped with the crying.
Where you at @Tacky Fries?!
Delete1st yes his birthday. juice is 12-27-89- i believe they showed again at the end where the wrote on the rock wall a few episodes back rip jt 12-27-89
Deleteright before he cut a deal w/ jax and did the drive by to go and get put in jail
i'm guessing maybe 12-27-80 was a sort of gangland time stamp, time of death type thing.. like soa till the very end maybe??
funny how we both were singing the rose garden song huh??
i really didn't think he would kill her and i was watching in bed on my laptop and when the shot rang out i jumped and my baby furball who was tucked under my right arm next to my computer just looked back at me and gave me the angriest "DO NOT DISTURB!!" smh look.. i just grinned at her and took a breath.. i didn't think he would but he had to end the cycle..
yes well guys never need a good reason to fuck do they??
i did not fully understand jax's whole request to fully diversify and make for a hybrid club but i will go back and rewatch later tomorrow afternoon..
maybe you could better explain what that means???
also where can i watch the sheild?? it's not on netflix
i/m on season 3 of damages and i wanted to start that next i never watched that b4..
oh and yeah i figured that whole car chase scene would be completely wiped off the slate..there's just not enough time w/ 2 eps left to address petty shit like theft, assault, fat shaming...
only so many loose ends to tie up and only 2 eps to do it in i figured the fat shaming would never be brought up on charges.. and mrs chibbs must have been tied up to the bedpost still from last week where chibbs left here..
cheeesechrist jackieboy i fuurrrgot to untie huurrr..
wow.. almost 20 minutes b/w fully reading and processing your post and writing my response...hahahaha
Delete@sugartits
Delete***SOA SPOILERS***
*Whew! Let's see if I can respond in under 20 minutes ;)
*I'm thinking it's either a birthdate or a bible verse. Could be gang shit though- I can't read the last number but it could be 80, 88, or 89. 80 would fit for his bday but 88 would make sense as in 12 (AB because A is first letter of alphabet and B is second), 27 (AB set?) and 88 (common skinhead tat for Heil Hitler, as 8 is the eighth letter)
*Do you really think he shot Gem to end the cycle? I think it was more because club shit supersedes family. You do "what needs to be done."
*Jax made earlier promises to patch in the Mexican dudes. It will be interesting to see if Sutter frames the hybridization as a positive or negative shift. I think the bigger point is not so much that they care about equality (as they constantly say racist shit) but that it always comes down to green. They get to pay lip service and act like they are fighting an antiquated rule while not giving a shit about anything but money. I need to rewatch again later too. So much shit!
Daily Dose of Fat Shaming
awesome sauce recaps as usual.. imma going to bed now.
Deletei will rewatch wed and get back to you hopefully w/ our 3some tacky fries joins in too..nighty night boo boo
I'm here, just late as always! Still processing. Love your notes, not much left to be said. I also wondered how you can go from killing mama straight to sex, but I think that's always been a coping mechanism for Jax (not excusing it, but an observation). It was interesting to see the full circle with Wendy. However, on Afterword, Callie mentioned it had only been SEVEN days since Tara's murder. WTF
DeleteAlso, I don't know if you guys saw my link from last week, but I totally think Tig is dirty. There is no way Marks would have let him live without making it work to his favor. Marks is too smart to waste an opportunity like that. When you go back and watch, notice the camera shots to Tig.
Question: When Jax says he'll "make sure his club votes the right way," was he talking about Mayhem or stepping down as president? I'm guessing the latter, but still not convinced.
DeleteMy thoughts on tonight's episode
Delete* I can't believe they took out 3 major characters in one episode, but I guess they didn't want to take them all out in the finale.
* Not sure why it bugged me so much, but I didn't want Jax to sleep with Wendy.
* I found it sad when Chucky told Wayne to tell Gemma hi. I realized then that she had a trifecta of men carrying a torch for her- Nero, Wayne and Chucky.
* I absolutely loved the song about rain. I knew the voice was familiar but I couldn't place it. I had to google it to find out it was Ed Sherran.
* I thought Gemma was going to be like a cockroach and survive everything. Now I have to rethink what will happen next week.
Hi @Tacky Fries! I totally BUY that Jax was able, ahem, to, ummm..perform but I am just saying that I am disturbed by it. Jax - like many antihero characters- substitutes sex for emotional expression. It makes sense that fucking is the first thing he would do, and it is consistent with his behavior since day 1.
Delete*What?!?! SEVEN DAYS!! Great scoop! Thanks! Must watch!
*I did see it. The only reasons it may not happen are 1) simplicity; 2) time restriction/last episode primacy and 3) Sutter may not be that skilled of a planner/writer. I love the theory though and always enjoy shit like that. We will see. It sucks when you build up all of these elaborate theories and they end up wrong. Luckily I was right with my Black Hand SOA Theory.
Minor BrBa spoiler: Back in the day, I had so many reasons why I thought Gomez was dirty and I still feel guilty about it. That was the one TV theory I had that I was really wrong about. Sorry Gomie!
@ Tacky, I didn't see the full afterword, but when Gemma went to see her dad, she told the lady that she couldn't contact Tara because she died a few months/3 months prior (can't remember specifically), but it definitely wasn't 7 days.
DeleteAnd I agree with your Tig assessment.
There's a lot of Botox amongst those 3.
ReplyDeletei guess they made up from when courtney freaked out on lana for covering heart shaped box
ReplyDeletei moved the post down here to make it easier to reply okay???
ReplyDelete***************8warning soa spoilers okay**********************
kurt sutter said in the after show why he killed all 3 in this ep but i can't remember i will try to remember when i rewatch.. too mtch to process all at once, ya know??
okay last post and imma going to bed.. gemma said in tonights episode that tara was killed a few months ago but wayne said in the aftwerword that the real time difference was only 7 days.. it was more like 2 months i think..
guys never need a good reason to fuck umkay??
@alnl.. yes i wast trying to type as fast as i could..
Deleteand i agree the way tiggs /chibbs whatever his name kept side eyeing jax and being all shifty was making me a little nervous.. i noticed that too.. but like i said ^^^^^^^^^^ so much too process at once i have to sleep on things and go back and rewatch after i have let things processed awhile.... but i remember tiggs cuteye to jax, sure sure, jacky...
I need to watch the episode again and see what I missed. Like you said WAY too much to process at once.
DeleteYAY!!! @all lace joined us!!!
Delete*Exactly. I think SOA will end very Hamlet everybody dies style. Heads needed to start rolling
*I think him going back to Wendy of all people and so damn soon will bother a lot of people. It really trivializes Tara and her role in the family even more than Jax banging up the street walker chic (seemingly right after too). This was further underscored by Wendy instantly replacing Tara as her dad's conservator...lives are expendable, people are replaceable, nothing is sacred.
*Interesting that hospice admin procedures technically got Gemma killed. Tara got HER revenge. Take that Beyotch for that fork through the brain!
*yup Gemma tha heartbreaka
@Tacky Fries:
*I think Jax knows he's dead anyways. As Nero predicted, killing Gemma will destroy him if the Mayhem vote, prison, or foes do not
*I think he is sacrificing himself to Mr Mayhem for the club. He admitted lying and killing another brother. He apologized for failing as a president
Do you think that's why jax wanted Wendy and Nero to take the boys to the farm?? Because he knows the captain will go down with the ship and he wants the boys raised on a farm?
DeleteAll women in club land are marginalized and replaceable without anyone even raising an eyebrow. Like old one out new one in.. women are completely expendable. .porn , old lady . Hooker .. 3 choices..all expendable at any time..
Lana is so much younger than Court, and yet she's probably neck to neck with her in the plastic surgery stakes.
ReplyDeleteCallie was trying to be funny when he said "SEVEN DAYS". Trying to make a point that people kept asking why he hadn't solved the murder yet and he said he'd only been on it seven days...what do people want?. I don't think he literally meant 7 days. If so, then Jax has banged 2 women within 7 days of his wife dying. With all the stuff they are doing, there is no way it's only been 7 days. Juice was at Wendy's for several days alone and he's been in jail for longer.
ReplyDeleteNot to mention, I think Jax was in jail for like 10 days after Tara died before they released him....
ReplyDeleteI believe you're right. I thought about it once I went to bed last night, and realized that either a) Callie was being sarcastic or b)he was just flat out wrong/confused.
DeletePS Good catch on the hand @LadyH!!!